SPATIAL ATTRACTION is a podcast about the spaces we work in, and the forces that shape how we think, interact, and perform. Hosted by Kursty Groves (author, speaker, and senior advisor on work, experience and human performance), the show explores why some environments energise people and make good work easier… while others leave us scattered, tense, or stuck. Each episode follows one clear theme - from focus and flow to trust, belonging, creativity, and momentum - and looks at what’s really driving behaviour beneath the surface. You’ll hear expert interviews, real-world stories, and…
Episodes
Designed to Feel (with Ivy Ross): The Science of How Creative Experiences Shape Us
19 Oct 2026 · 49 min
Send us Fan Mail What if some of the things we’ve treated as peripheral to work are actually essential to doing it well? We’ve become remarkably good at designing work around productivity and efficiency. But what about the experiences that help us think, imagine, create and connect? And as AI…
Redefining Work (with Jeremy Myerson): Beyond the Halfway House
25 Feb 2026 · 46 min
Send us Fan Mail Redefining Work In this episode of Spatial Attraction, Kursty Groves is in conversation with Jeremy Myerson about why the return-to-office debate refuses to settle. Together, they explore the “halfway house” we’re living in now: work that feels more flexible and more unsettled at…
Series Intro: Welcome to Spatial Attraction
29 Jan 2026 · 1 min
Send us Fan Mail Spatial Attraction is a podcast about the spaces we work in, and the forces that shape how we think, interact, and perform. In each episode, Kursty Groves explores the conditions people are working inside across physical, digital, social, cognitive, and temporal space - and what…
Trust Spaces (with Rachel Botsman): Designing the Conditions for Trust
21 Jan 2026 · 39 min
Send us Fan Mail Space for Trust In this episode of Spatial Attraction, Kursty Groves is in conversation with Rachel Botsman about how trust has been reorganised over time, and what that means for the spaces we work inside now. Together, they explore how trust is shaped by the conditions people…
The Office Chronicles: Why IKEA’s employees love coming to the office, with Momo Pavlovic
23 Dec 2022 · 46 min
Send us Fan Mail What’s a better life? What’s a better office? Those two questions are inherently connected. Your workspace’s biggest challenge is to stay relevant, and it’s impossible to do so without obsessively making being in the physical workspace an incredible life experience. This is IKEA’s…
The Office Chronicles: What it’s like inside the Netflix office with Nasreen Potter
16 Nov 2022 · 45 min
Send us Fan Mail What’s it like to design, build and operationalize a Workplace project during 2020 a Netflix office? What’s the workplace culture like? How does Netflix stay genuine? Nasreen Potter from Netflix tells all about what it’s like to work there. She shares the Netflix workplace…
The Office Chronicles: How to create a ‘destination office’? with Tom Kegode, Lloyds Banking Group
4 Oct 2022 · 43 min
Send us Fan Mail What if you could have a ‘destination office’ rather than a bland office that people dread coming into? How do you create spaces at work that energize people? How do you make people look forward to their days in the office? It’s not just hitting KPIs that creates value at work.…
Myths About Resilience and How It Actually Works With Bruce Daisley
7 Sept 2022 · 42 min
Send us Fan Mail Resilience - why doesn’t it work? Most people get resilience wrong. In this episode, we’ll reframe what resilience really is and how to tap into it for yourself and your organization. Bruce Daisley and Kursty discuss the 3 pillars of resilience that people don’t usually take into…
The Office Chronicles: How Does Your Office Space Manifest Your Culture? With David McKay, Innocent Drinks
11 Aug 2022 · 44 min
Send us Fan Mail How Does Your Office Space Manifest Your Culture? With David McKay How do spaces change the way we talk to each other? The way we feel about work? And the way we behave at work? David McKay from Innocent Drinks joins Kursty to discuss how their spaces manifest their company…
Hybrid Work Office Space Challenges Worth Solving With Emma Morley, Trifle*
27 Jul 2022 · 38 min
Send us Fan Mail Solving hybrid work challenges requires us to talk less about desks and more about how we work. Emma Morley and Kursty discuss what it’s like to solve hybrid work, all the things that get in the way, and how to be more intentional in solving for it. Different stakeholders around…
Why Bringing Nature Inside Boosts Creativity, Productivity, and Wellness (Space Matters, ep.7)
13 Jul 2022 · 38 min
Send us Fan Mail Plants can change your mood, so should offices have more of them around? Kali and Katie from The Glasshouse project join Kursty to discuss how plants can boost mental wellness, productivity, and creativity. They also chat about how having plants in the office can encourage staff…
The Office Chronicles: How Your Brand and Experiential Design Can Impact Your Office Design - with Sonya Simmonds, Spotify
29 Jun 2022 · 47 min
Send us Fan Mail Sonya Simmonds joins Kursty to discuss how to meaningfully bring out your brand through workplace and office design. They explore how office design impacts employee morale, productivity, and work ethic, why the ‘wow factor’ of designing office spaces shouldn’t stop at gimmicks and…
Special Episode: LEGO Workplace Symposium 2022 (Part 3) - Breaking Behavioural Norms Through Purposeful Meetings and Office Design
22 Jun 2022 · 43 min
Send us Fan Mail In the final part of this series, listen in to the last two hot topic discussions from the LEGO workplace symposium on (1) designing spaces and (2) orchestrating purposeful meetings. During the discussion on designing office spaces, we discuss how to create spaces that break…
Special Episode: LEGO Workplace Symposium 2022 (Part 2) - Finding a Strong Purpose to Return to The Office, No It’s Not “Culture”
16 Jun 2022 · 44 min
Send us Fan Mail Be a fly on the wall in two hot topic discussions that took place in the LEGO Workplace Symposium: What is the purpose of the workplace? Hybrid headaches over the past year You’ll listen in on groups of executives from many large companies like Microsoft, Netflix, Unilever,…
Special Episode: Recap of the LEGO Workplace Symposium 2022 (Part 1) - How Do Work and Play Merge In A Conference?
9 Jun 2022 · 24 min
Send us Fan Mail In the first part of this three-part special, Kursty and Sabine recap their experience at the LEGO Workplace Symposium in Billund, Denmark. The symposium focused on key issues in workplace design and experience. It was organized by the Ways of Working team and was attended by…
How Remote Work Creates Richer In-Person Interactions with Scott Witthoft (Space Matters, ep.6)
25 May 2022 · 53 min
Send us Fan Mail Scott Witthoft joins Kursty to discuss how we are becoming more intentional with how we use and divide physical and digital spaces. They explore many thought-provoking questions like: why do some things work in some places and not work in others? Are in-person meetings and…
The Mindset Companies Need to Make Remote Work, Work with Jason Fried (Space Matters, ep. 5)
11 May 2022 · 49 min
Send us Fan Mail Jason Fried joins Kursty to share wisdom on how he runs a fully remote company by simplifying things and focusing on what matters. They explore where deep work happens, how to create space for it, why rigid workplace rules can kill passion and create distractions, and why…
Spotting Trends That Will Shape The Way We Live and Work with Li Edelkoort (Space Matters, ep.4)
27 Apr 2022 · 44 min
Send us Fan Mail Trend forecaster Li Edelkoort joins Kursty to discuss the anatomy of trends, the ecology of fashion, and the post-pandemic workplace. Reflecting on the state of the world, Li discusses how to redesign the modern workplace to respond to new and upcoming trends. She explores how the…
Kursty featured on Workplace Geeks podcast
13 Apr 2022 · 51 min
Send us Fan Mail Interview with Ian Ellison and Chris Moriarty, two brilliant workplace thinkers 'on a mission to find and celebrate the most exciting and inspiring workplace research in the world'. A fascinating geek-out into Kursty's second book, Spaces for Innovation, which dives into the…
Creating Spaces of Trust To Enable Immersion At Work with Rachel Botsman (Space Matters, ep.3)
6 Apr 2022 · 46 min
Send us Fan Mail Summary Expert author Rachel Botsman joins Kursty to discuss the relationship between trust and space. They talk about how significant it is for organisations to empower individuals to have a rhythm of work that sends them into immersion mode, why getting through to-do lists…